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EP 37 – Boarder crisis • "shitty media men," • war crimes • school polls • alien contact

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Ravi, Cory, and Rikki start things off with a quick reminder to check out the Desi Crime Podcast that recently joined the Lost Debate network. From there, they delve into probable Russian war crimes in Ukraine, the defamation trial over the “Shitty Media Men” list, Biden’s controversial decision to lift Title 42 at the southern border, and generational and political divides on education, before ending with a hearty debate about humans trying to contact aliens. 

Sources

April 6, 2022 Russia-Ukraine news (CNN, 04/06)

UN says Ukraine’s civilian deaths are being underestimated and the true number may never be known (CBC, 04/02)

More photos from Ukraine-Russia war massacre in Bucha, devastation in Mariupol (Fox News, 04/05)

Ukraine’s Zelensky questions UN Security Council’s mandate in speech on alleged Russian atrocities (CNN, 04/06)

Satellite images show bodies lay in Bucha for weeks, despite Russian claims. (New York Times, 04/04)

‘Just look at this’: Ukrainians appalled by gruesome scenes (CNN, 04/06)

War Crimes Watch: Hard path to justice in Bucha atrocities (AP, 04/05)

WAR CRIMES WATCH UKRAINE (AP, Frontline, PBS, 04/06)

Video appears to show Ukrainian troops killing captured Russian soldiers. (04/06)

What the Ketanji Brown Jackson ‘war criminal’ thing is really about (The Washington Post, 03/22)

Title 42 Exceptions for Ukrainian Nationals (U.S. Customs and Border Protection, 03/11)

EXPLAINER: What Are Title 42 Expulsions? (Jurist, 05/14/2021)

What Is Title 42? What to Know About the Border Rules Being Lifted (The Wall Street Journal, 04/05)

Biden Administration Will Lift Title 42 Order Used To Expel Migrants (Reason, 04/01)

Title 42 Has Allowed Many Migrants to Be Quickly Expelled, and Others to Stay (The New York Times, 03/30)

Controversial U.S. Title 42 Expulsions Policy Is Coming to an End, Bringing New Border Challenges (Migration Policy Institute, 03/31)

What’s Happening At The U.S.-Mexico Border in 7 Charts (Pew Research Center, 11/09/21)

How Immigration Became So Controversial (The Atlantic, 02/02/2018)

Plan Z for Immigration: Let the states sort it out (The Atlantic, 09/02/2021)

Everything You Need to know about Title 42 (The Washington Post, 04/06)

Biden admin will officially end Covid restriction at border on May 23 (NBC News, 04/01)

Ending Title 42 Is Biden’s Most Unpopular Move Yet (Morning Consult, 04/06)

Pence ordered borders closed after CDC experts refused (AP, 10/03/2020)

Before Covid-19, Trump Aide Sought to Use Disease to Close Borders (The New York Times, 05/03/2020)

Top CDC official told Congress migrant expulsion policy was not needed to contain COVID (CBS News, 11/12/2021)

Timeline: How Title 42 came to be used on asylum seekers (El Paso Matters, 10/08/2021)

Rising Border Encounters in 2021: An Overview and Analysis (American Immigration Council, 03/04)

Court Upholds Federal Government’s Title 42 Border Policy (The Wall Street Journal, 03/04)

Southern Border Apprehensions at All-Time High (Statista, 11/08)

Biden’s Border Crisis Is about to Get Worse (National Review, 04/01)

Biden opens the Title 42 gates – prepare for madness (New York Post, 04/04)

Coronavirus Border Expulsions: CDC’s Assault on Asylum Seekers and Unaccompanied Minors (Just Security, 04/13/2020)

The “Shitty Media Men” Lawsuit From Hell (Puck, 04/04)

The “Shitty Media Men” list, explained (Vox, 01/11/2018)

Hi, I’m on the Shitty Media Men list, but maybe you already knew that (Medium, 01/29/2020)

STEPHEN ELLIOTT v. MOIRA DONEGAN AND JANE DOES (1-30) (UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT EASTERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK, 03/31)

I Started the Media Men List My name is Moira Donegan. (The Cut, 01/10/2018)

The Dark Side Of #MeToo: What Happens When Men Are Falsely Accused (Forbes, 02/12/2020)

Leon Wieseltier: A Reckoning (The Atlantic, 10/27/2017)

BuzzFeed has fired its White House correspondent after allegations of inappropriate comments to a colleague (Business Insider, 12/27/2017)

Paris Review Editor Resigns Amid Inquiry Into His Conduct With Women (The New York Times, 12/06/2017)

“Sh**ty Media Men” List Creator Unable to Escape Libel Suit (The Hollyword Reporter, 06/30/2020)

Evidence Destruction Warrants “Shitty Media Men” Trial, Says Writer (The
Hollywood Report, 06/03/2021)

Writer named in controversial ‘media men’ list wins round in court (Politico, 04/01)

The Creator of the Shitty Media Men List Isn’t Done (Vice, 11/18/2019)

Young Republicans, Old Democrats: Exclusive Poll Points to Stark Generation Gaps on School Choice, Teachers’ Unions (The 74, 04/04)

Researchers Made a New Message for Extraterrestrials (Scientific American, 03/30)

Scientists Wrote a New Message to Intelligent Aliens (Vice, 03/31)

Scientists beaming Earth’s location into space ignore Stephen Hawking’s warning about contacting aliens (Metro, 04/06)

Stephen Hawking’s Most Provocative Moments, From Evil Aliens to Black Hole Wagers (National Geographic, 05/02/2018)

Why Stephen Hawking is light years from the truth about ‘dangerous aliens’ (The Guardian, 09/27/2016)

 

[00:21] Ravi reminds our dear audience about the newest podcast in the Lost Debate network. 

[01:34] Ravi, Cory, and Rikki discuss the atrocities we’re seeing in Bucha, Ukraine and whether the evidence will amount to prosecutable war crimes. From there, they debate what makes war crimes unique, how the standards are applied unevenly, and why consequences for Putin might be wishful thinking. 

[13:16] Ravi moves on to the defamation lawsuit moving forward against the creator of the “Shitty Media Men” list, recounting how it came to be and the firings that resulted before opening up the conversation to Cory and Rikki on anonymous accusations.

[24:06] Cory explains the soon to be lifted Title 42 and how it’s been used to expel asylum seekers at the southern border over the last two years. Ravi parses out Biden’s motivation behind lifting the measure now, while Rikki unpacks the country’s lack of preparedness to handle a further surge in migrants.

[33:17] Ravi walks us through some new polling on how different generations view school choice and what the splits illustrate about political polarization in America. 

[38:54] Ravi finally reveals his anti-human agenda as the hosts banter about the existence of aliens and whether it’s wise to transmit our location to possibly hostile beings.

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